Sarah and Beth tackle the complicated state of climate discourse in America. While extreme weather events become increasingly common and climate change shows up in our daily lives—from electricity bills to insurance rates—the national conversation remains frustratingly frozen in partisan gridlock.

They explore why climate change has become such a divisive political issue despite its visible effects, discuss the tension between climate catastrophism and practical solutions, and examine what effective climate messaging might look like going forward. From the “mile wide, inch deep” nature of public support to the challenges facing both progressive and conservative climate advocates, this conversation captures the full complexity of where we are—and where we might need to go.

Finally, Sarah introduces Beth (and us) to junk journaling, a creative practice of transforming everyday ephemera into meaningful keepsakes.

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