Cloud is not the ultimate destination; it's the path to an end goal. "The idea of cloud is to get you a modern architecture," says Vikram Chhabra, who leads product management for IBM Security Services with a focus on cloud and infrastructure security. "The destination is transformation to help you innovate and drive modern experiences for your end customers."

Chhabra identifies multiple challenges as CISOs steer their businesses down this path to a modern architecture: talent, cloud controls, centralized strategy, compliance. Security — beginning with automation — can act as an enabler in light of these challenges. Chhabra chats with David about types of cloud models, who the CISO should partner with on cloud migration, and how to manage threats and prove continuous compliance in a cloud environment. Plus, Pam and David discuss their opinions on pineapple pizza (it's relevant, promise). 

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