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Code Red at OpenAI, Ilya Says Stop Scaling, Robot With a Gun: The AI Argument EP81

Code Red at OpenAI, Ilya Says Stop Scaling, Robot With a Gun: The AI Argument EP81

Update: 2025-12-06
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ChatGPT just took a 6% hit—and Sam Altman’s hit the panic button. OpenAI is halting feature rollouts, shifting focus, and scrambling to stay ahead. They’ve gone into code red mode. Justin gets it. Frank’s worried they’ll make ChatGPT too clingy to quit. Either way, it’s clear: Gemini’s breathing down their necks, and the gloves are coming off.

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Google’s Gemini 3 is finally getting tempting—even for die-hard ChatGPT fans. Justin nearly switched. Frank’s already got one foot in. Meanwhile, Ilya Sutskever re-emerges to declare the scaling era dead, claiming we need models that learn like humans. So why is OpenAI still betting on scale? And yes, someone gave an AI-powered robot a gun to test alignment. It went well… until the roleplay started.

01:15 Did we really get this many AI drops in a week?
05:52 Is Gemini finally tempting the ChatGPT loyalists?
09:07 What does Sam Altman’s code red mean for OpenAI?
20:03 Is Ilya right that the scaling era is over?
32:13 Will an AI robot shoot you if you ask?

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Code Red at OpenAI, Ilya Says Stop Scaling, Robot With a Gun: The AI Argument EP81

Code Red at OpenAI, Ilya Says Stop Scaling, Robot With a Gun: The AI Argument EP81

Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery