This episode of the #citizenweb3 podcast features David Pinger from Warden Protocol

David Pinger envisions a future where AI and blockchain merge to enable trust-minimized, autonomous systems. Known for saying “blockchain isn’t for humans,” he challenges conventional thinking with a bold, machine-first perspective.

Warden Protocol is a Layer-1 blockchain designed for secure, verifiable AI integration with smart contracts and autonomous agents. It enables AI-driven applications to operate across multiple chains in a trust-minimized way.

We spoke to David Pinger about Warden Protocol and:

• Decentralized trust minimized financial system


• Converging of blockchain and AI


• The shoes of the founder


• Majority of startups fail


• Blockchain as a panacea


• Blockchain isn't for humans


• Blockchain and AI can't naturally talk to each other


• A wave of a new generation of applications


• Exercise or go crazy

Timestamps

00:00 – 05:47 : Intro

05:47 -- 10:00 : Valuable lessons brought to Web3

10:00 -- 11:41 : Web3 vs Web2 founders

11:41 -- 13:40 : Developers vs community

13:40 -- 23:00 : Blockchain change

23:00 -- 27:20 : AI centralization

27:20 -- 33:25 : Hype

33:25 -- 38:33 : Optimism, Hope and technology

38:33 -- 48:00 : Tribalism and building community

48:00 -- 52:25 : To be a validator

52:25 -- 58:12 : The Blitz

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Special Guest: David Pinger.

Links:

• AI
• Arthur C. Clarke
• Berlin
• Binance
• Bitcoin
• Cosmos
• Einstein
• Ethereum
• FTX
• Github Warden Protocol Node Setup
• Github Warden-Spex
• Github Warden-Tools
• Lehman Crisis
• Lord of the Rings
• NASA
• Near
• Niels Bohr
• Polkadot
• Shakespeare
• Solana
• Token 2049
• Truth Terminal
• Vitalik Buterin
• X (Formally Twitter)