Companies Are Competing to Bring Crypto to the Masses. Who Is Best Positioned? - Ep. 889
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Crypto is moving past speculation â and into the battle for mass adoption.
In this episode, Phantom CEO Brandon Millman and Pudgy Penguins CEO Luca Netz join Unchained to debate who will own the next hundred million users. Will it be product-led startups, Web2 giants like X and Meta, or crypto-native apps like Phantom? From payments to trading wars to the âeverything appâ dream, they unpack where the real value will accrue â and why the easy money era for entrepreneurs is over.
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Guests:
Brandon Millman, CEO and co-founder of Phantom
Luca Netz, CEO of Pudgy Penguins
Timestamps:
đŹ 0:00 Intro
đ§ 3:34 Why Brandon still thinks itâs a great time to build in crypto
⥠5:55 How Luca sees this moment as an âinflection pointâ for the industry
đ„ 9:36 What Brandon and Lucaâs personal journeys reveal about building in Web3
đ 18:07 Whoâs best positioned to onboard the next wave of users into crypto
đž 25:05 How distribution is key and why Luca desperately wants to invest in Phantom đ
đł 37:00 Who might win the payments race and what gives them the edge
đ± 51:26 Whether Solanaâs Seeker phone has any real shot at breaking through
đ 58:32 How Robinhood might use Privy and Bridge to dominate the crypto stack
âïž 1:01:17 What the new crypto trading wars say about Robinhood, Coinbase, and Kraken
đ€ 1:06:05 Whether Coinbase lacks a good product team
đČ 1:10:36 Whether the âeverything appâ dream actually makes sense
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