If you are an artist, or someone who cares about the health and wellbeing of the arts in the United States, I think you will find this conversation to be both insightful and inspirational. There's only one Ruby and I am honored to be able to work with her through my directorship at Eyebeam, where she serves on the board. It was a pleasure to dig into the shifts in the culture since the meltdown of the NEA in the 90's to the current version of the culture wars we are experiencing now from her perspective, as an arts executive since the 80's. As she finalizes a new archive and website of her work and the artists that she has engaged with, this was a fine moment to capture conversations that we typically have offline.

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