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Could Vance Sink Trump? History Says: Maybe!

Could Vance Sink Trump? History Says: Maybe!

Update: 2024-08-173
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This podcast delves into the history of controversial vice-presidential nominees, exploring how their actions and statements have impacted their respective tickets. The podcast begins by comparing the dynamic of successful duos like Batman and Robin to the current political pairing of Donald Trump and JD Vance, questioning whether Vance's unpopularity and controversial statements could be a liability for the Republican ticket. The podcast then examines several historical examples, including the 1972 presidential election where Thomas Eagleton's past mental health struggles became a major campaign issue, leading to his resignation from the ticket. The podcast also explores the 2008 election, where John McCain's choice of Sarah Palin as his running mate initially boosted his campaign but ultimately turned into a liability due to her lack of experience and controversial statements. The podcast further analyzes Richard Nixon's "Checkers speech" in 1952, highlighting how he successfully reframed a scandal by appealing to the public's emotions. The podcast also discusses the 1988 election, where George H.W. Bush's running mate, Dan Quayle, faced criticism for his academic record and perceived lack of substance. The podcast concludes by exploring the potential options available to Donald Trump if he decides that JD Vance is a liability for the Republican ticket, discussing the difficulty of replacing a running mate after the convention and speculating on Trump's unpredictable behavior. The hosts argue that while some vice-presidential nominees have been perceived as liabilities, there is limited evidence to suggest they can definitively sink a ticket. However, they acknowledge that Vance's situation is unique and could have a significant impact on the outcome of the election.

Outlines

00:00:00
The Impact of Controversial Vice-Presidential Nominees

This podcast examines the historical impact of controversial vice-presidential nominees, analyzing how their actions and statements have affected their respective tickets, and explores the potential consequences of JD Vance's unpopularity for the 2024 Republican ticket.

00:01:53
Historical Precedents: Eagleton, Palin, and Quayle

The podcast delves into historical examples of controversial vice-presidential nominees, including Thomas Eagleton in 1972, Sarah Palin in 2008, and Dan Quayle in 1988, analyzing how their controversies impacted their respective campaigns.

00:16:37
Reframing Scandals and the Power of Public Appeal

The podcast explores Richard Nixon's "Checkers speech" in 1952, highlighting how he successfully reframed a scandal by appealing to the public's emotions, and discusses the potential lessons for modern political campaigns.

00:24:23
The Future of the Trump-Vance Ticket

The podcast explores the potential options available to Donald Trump if he decides that JD Vance is a liability for the Republican ticket, discussing the difficulty of replacing a running mate after the convention and speculating on Trump's unpredictable behavior.

Keywords

**Vice Presidential Nominee**


A candidate chosen by a presidential nominee to run for the office of Vice President of the United States. The VP nominee typically brings specific skills, experience, or political appeal to the ticket.

**Eglton Affair**


A political scandal in 1972 involving Democratic vice-presidential nominee Thomas Eagleton, who was forced to resign after revelations about his past mental health struggles.

**Sarah Palin**


The Republican vice-presidential nominee in the 2008 election, known for her conservative views and folksy persona. Palin's lack of experience and controversial statements became a major campaign issue.

**Checkers Speech**


A famous speech delivered by Richard Nixon in 1952, in which he defended himself against accusations of financial impropriety. Nixon's emotional appeal about his family's dog, Checkers, charmed the public and saved his place on the ticket.

**Dan Quayle**


The Republican vice-presidential nominee in the 1988 election, known for his perceived lack of substance and controversial statements. Quayle's unpopularity may have hurt the ticket, but Bush ultimately won the election.

**JD Vance**


The Republican vice-presidential nominee in the 2024 election, known for his controversial views and unpopularity. Vance's statements and behavior have raised concerns about his potential impact on the Republican ticket.

Q&A

  • What are some historical examples of vice-presidential nominees who have been perceived as liabilities for their respective tickets?

    The podcast highlights several examples, including Thomas Eagleton in 1972, Sarah Palin in 2008, and Dan Quayle in 1988. These nominees faced controversies and criticisms that potentially impacted their respective campaigns.

  • What are the potential consequences of JD Vance's unpopularity and controversial statements for the Republican ticket?

    The podcast explores the possibility that Vance's negative image could hurt Trump's chances of winning the election. The hosts compare Vance's situation to past examples and speculate on the potential impact of his presence on the ticket.

  • What are the options available to Donald Trump if he decides that JD Vance is a liability for the Republican ticket?

    The podcast discusses the difficulty of replacing a running mate after the convention and explores the possibility of Trump taking unconventional actions, such as firing Vance through a social media post.

  • What lessons can be learned from past examples of problematic vice-presidential nominees?

    The podcast concludes by emphasizing that while some vice-presidential nominees have been perceived as liabilities, there is limited evidence to suggest they can definitively sink a ticket. However, the hosts acknowledge that Vance's situation is unique and could have a significant impact on the outcome of the election.

Show Notes

It’s been about a month since former President Donald Trump chose J.D. Vance to be his running mate on the Republican ticket. And in that short amount of time, the Ohio senator has made history… as one of the most unpopular picks for the job ever. The latest polls show more than 40 percent of Americans have an unfavorable opinion of Vance, prompting some to question whether he could sink Republicans’ hopes of winning the White House in November. To better understand the extent to which Vance has become an albatross for the Trump campaign, Max and Erin look at four other unpopular V.P. picks in modern history, from former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin all the way back to former President Richard Nixon’s turn as President Eisenhower’s running mate in the 50s. They’ll explore the effects each candidate had on his or her respective ticket, and what it could all mean for Vance and the Republicans this year.

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Could Vance Sink Trump? History Says: Maybe!

Could Vance Sink Trump? History Says: Maybe!

Erin Ryan, Max Fisher