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Courage, Culture & Tough Calls: Cameron Schwab on Redefining Leadership

Courage, Culture & Tough Calls: Cameron Schwab on Redefining Leadership

Update: 2025-09-14
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Cameron Schwab became the youngest CEO in AFL history at just 24, going on to lead Richmond, Melbourne and Fremantle through some of their toughest chapters. Now the founder of Design CEO, he draws on those experiences to teach leaders how to thrive under pressure. In this chat, Cameron unpacks what true leadership looks like in high-stakes environments, why culture must be built on principles, not slogans, and why authenticity, courage and vulnerability matter more than ever.

On this episode, we discuss:

(00:00 ) Intro
(02:29 ) Carrying The Weight Of Leadership And Legacy
(04:36 ) Parenting, Perspective And The Role Of Family
(10:55 ) Becoming CEO of Richmond FC at 24 Years Old
(16:14 ) Taking On Richmond And Facing Financial Crisis
(20:09 ) Culture As An Outcome And Building The Right Team
(23:44 ) Why Authentic Leaders Must Be Vulnerable
(31:29 ) Four Key Questions Every Leader Should Answer
(35:09 ) Bringing Mistakes Into The Room And Learning From Them
(41:38 ) The Four Postures Of Effective Leadership Conversations
(45:31 ) Creating Your Leadership Trademark
(49:15 ) How Music And Daily Rituals Shape Leadership Mindset
(56:01 ) Overcoming Fear And Laziness As A Leader
(59:42 ) Making Sense, Meaning, Progress And Numbers
(01:02:00 ) Where To Find Cameron Schwab

Connect with Cameron Schwab on LinkedIn or you can visit their website

Check out the free resources from Inovayt here.

Send us an email: hello@thenumbersgamepodcast.com.au

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Hosts:
Nick Reilly
Jason Robinson
Martin Vidakovic

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Courage, Culture & Tough Calls: Cameron Schwab on Redefining Leadership

Courage, Culture & Tough Calls: Cameron Schwab on Redefining Leadership

Jason Robinson, Nick Reilly, Martin Vidakovic