Not gonna lie: this was our toughest conversation to date. Can you tell that we struggle with resting for its own sake?! Maybe you do, too. We hope this helps.

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• 7 types of rest


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Credits: this episode was written & hosted by Jeanna Kadlec, Rebecca ‘Bee’ Scolnick and Meg Jones Wall. It was produced & edited by Rebecca ‘Bee’ Scolnick.