In this episode of Coin Stories, Natalie Brunell is joined by Cornell organic chemistry professor Dave Collum, a self-described Bitcoin agnostic, to debate markets, inflation, and state power. Topics discussed:

• The “complacency” bubble within the economy
• The Fed’s playbook and next big crash: can they always print their way out?
• BRICS nations building an alternative system
• Gold vs. Bitcoin
• Why Dave believes "the state" won't allow Bitcoin to thrive
• What a real reset could look like

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