Kate Magic is joined by Haçienda DJ veteran and Manchester-based author Dave Haslam chaired by music pillar and academic Paul Martin, who co-ran the infamous Talkin' Loud alongside Gilles Peterson. In this conversation we revisited the past. Not in a nostalgic, reminiscent way - but as aptly put by Dave - in a way that provides ‘ammunition’ and ideas for the future. We explored local music heritage, the varying scenes and their respective venues (including necessary conversations on the Haçienda of course), the individualisation and commodification of DJ culture and the ways in which both consumerism and politics feeds into the changing landscape of music, venues, dance and beyond. Recorded by Garth Thomas in Manchester, October 2025.