David Barbarisi on virology, disease, blood, and voluntaryism

Update: 2025-09-25

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Episode Summary:

Welcome to the 4th episode of the podcast! I couldn’t think of a better way to continue the controversy than with someone I’ve shared so many voice notes and deep dives with over the years, David Barbarisi.

David and I agree on a whole lot of topics so this interview is a deepening viewpoint of the perspective we share on viruses, terrain theory, pathogens, disease, embodiment, politics, and where we may be headed. And, keeping our head forward and not stuck in the chaotic landscape of right vs. left.

In this episode, we explore the kind of topics that are core to my own healing and how I work with clients: nervous system regulation, questioning the system, intuition, and reclaiming our health through sovereignty and nature.

David shares his powerful story of growing up with a rare genetic condition, breaking bones as a child, and how that shaped his view of medicine, identity, and healing. We talk about what happens when you finally start listening to your body, stepping outside—literally—and seeing the sun not as a threat but as medicine.

David has a vast knowledge on many topics and lightens our hearts with respect to voluntaryism, spirituality and politics by giving us the blueprint to move forward united.

We explore:

How disconnection from nature impacts our health

The emotional imprint of childhood medical trauma

Why labels like “genetics” might be limiting more than helpful

Terrain theory and how microbes support healing

German New Medicine, voluntarism, and reclaiming personal authority

This episode sets the tone for what’s to come - raw, unfiltered, body-led, and heart-centered conversations about what healing really looks like.

Connect with David:

Website | www.healingoctopus.com

Instagram | www.instagram.com/healingoctopus

Facebook | www.facebook.com/healingoctopus

Substack | healingoctopus.substack.com