We’re talking about design in government: how it can be implemented, what the benefits are, and how it can de-risk projects.

We speak to Sarah Hurcombe, who was most recently Director of Human-centred design in Commissioning New South Wales, and has been a change agent within various government bodies here in Australia as well as in the United Kingdom. We also chat to Jo Szczepanska, who has years of experience in design and is currently a Service Designer at the Department of Premier and Cabinet in Victoria.


For a full transcript and links to the resources mentioned and for more information head to this post.


Credits and thank yous:
The show is hosted by Esther Semo and Sean Hua. Consulting producer is Daniel Semo. Podcast artwork designed by Nigel Moyes with illustrations by Indah Ibrahim. Music by Daniel Semo. 

This episode is brought to you by Code for Australia
Code for Australia are a for-purpose organisation working in collaboration with public sector teams and the tech community to help create a world class digital government