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Doom Spending vs. FIRE: Can a Kid Pension Fix Retirement?

Doom Spending vs. FIRE: Can a Kid Pension Fix Retirement?

Update: 2025-09-19
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From vending machines to van life, today’s money plans feel unhinged. On this episode, we welcome special guest Orianna Rosa Royle —award-winning journalist and Associate Editor at the Success Desk at Fortune. She helps us break down Germany’s “start at age six” pension idea, why Social Security fears are fueling bad choices, and the $32 investing habit that could change your future.




Reference Article by
Orianna Rosa Royle 


As boomers are forced to ‘unretire’ because they’ve not saved enough, 6-year-olds in Germany could soon have retirement accounts




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Editorial:
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Matt Sunbulli


Ken Wendt




Senior Audio Engineer:


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Aaron Calafato

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Doom Spending vs. FIRE: Can a Kid Pension Fix Retirement?

Doom Spending vs. FIRE: Can a Kid Pension Fix Retirement?

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