The extraordinary Jo Verrent is my guest on downtime today. Jo is the senior producer for Unlimited - the world’s largest commissions programme for disabled artists, ensuring that work gets seen, discussed and embedded within the cultural fabric of the UK, and further afield, with partners such as ACE, Creative Scotland, Southbank Centre, and the British Council.

I joined Jo on July 7th via her laptop in her home in Yorkshire, England.

We talked about the work the disability arts community has been doing to try to capture the attention of the government via the WeShallNotBeRemoved movement, Jo’s belief that organisations that don’t have access and diversity at the heart of their practice should either sign up for voluntary redundancy or just be shut down – they had their chance. As ever Jo was full of brilliantly concrete ideas, proposals and projects for how we should change, who we should prioritise and how the sector can make itself more interesting, relevant and equal in the difficult but potentially exciting months and years ahead.