Dr. Lisa Miller joins Rainn Wilson to explore the intersection of spirituality and science, delving into the hardwired nature of human spirituality. They discuss the unique spiritual journey of Gen Z, the role of suffering in personal growth, and the profound ways in which consciousness might transcend the physical brain. Dr. Miller also shares groundbreaking research on how spirituality can protect against depression and even influence healing. Tune in for a deep conversation that challenges conventional views and opens up new paths to understanding our place in the universe.

Dr. Lisa Miller is a clinical psychologist, professor at Columbia University, and a pioneering researcher in the field of spirituality and mental health. She is the author of "The Spiritual Child" and "The Awakened Brain," where she explores the scientific basis of spirituality and its profound impact on human resilience and well-being. Dr. Miller's work bridges the gap between psychology and spirituality, offering groundbreaking insights into how spiritual practices can protect against depression and enhance life’s meaning.

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