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Driving mNAV: Integrating New KPIs with Ben Werkman, Chaitanya Jain, & Adrian Morris

Driving mNAV: Integrating New KPIs with Ben Werkman, Chaitanya Jain, & Adrian Morris

Update: 2025-10-02
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From the Bitcoin Treasuries NYC Unconference, Ben Werkman, Chief Investment Officer at Swan Bitcoin, Chaitanya Jain, Bitcoin Strategy Manager at Strategy, and Adrian Morris of True North take the stage to discuss whether operating businesses of Bitcoin Treasury companies are ultimately a differentiator or a distraction. 


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Disclaimer: NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE - For entertainment purposes only.


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0:00 - Intro

0:30 - Chaitanya Jain on the true measure of success for a Bitcoin Treasury company

5:48 - Adrian Morris on the counterintuitiveness of mNAV 

9:26 - Ben Werkman on the separation of metrics as a strategy grows

15:18 - How should companies communicate about their mNAV with the market?

20:53 - Bitcoin derivatives and applying leverage


#podcast #bitcoin #microstrategy #investing #mstr #btc

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Driving mNAV: Integrating New KPIs with Ben Werkman, Chaitanya Jain, & Adrian Morris

Driving mNAV: Integrating New KPIs with Ben Werkman, Chaitanya Jain, & Adrian Morris

Timothy Kotzman