On this episode, Michael Richardson is joined by Antoine Bousquet and Jairus Grove, two of the most fascinating thinkers in international relations and critical security studies today. First, Michael interviews Antoine and Jairus about their work, then you'll hear our two guests in dialogue on "Martial Autonomies: Rise of the War Machines".

This is the second in a six-part series called Drone Futures, based on a virtual public seminar series at the Media Futures Hub. Drone Futures brings together leading artists, humanities and social science scholars whose research intersects with the emerging field of drone studies. From the neo-colonial violence of contemporary wars in the Middle East and Africa to the strange histories of unmanned aerial vehicles to activist uses in struggles for justice, this seminar series looks to the past and present to think into the future. Visit https://www.dronewitnessing.com/drone-futures for more info.

Antoine Bousquet is Reader in International Relations at Birkbeck College, University of London. He is the author of The Eye of War: Military Perception from the Telescope to the Drone, which is a deeply researched and carefully argued exploration of what Antoine calls ‘the martial gaze’. https://twitter.com/ajbousquet

Jairus Grove is Associate Professor of Political Science and Director of the Hawai‘i Research Center for Future Studies at the University of Hawai‘i at Manoa. He is the author of Savage Ecology: War and Geopolitics at the End of the World, one of the most startling and unsettling works of political theory of recent times and a book that has helped me think through how to understand where we’re at in geopolitics and the life of war. https://twitter.com/savageecology

Michael Richardson is Senior Research Fellow at the University of New South Wales, examining the intersection of war, culture and technology. https://twitter.com/richardson_m_a

Media Futures Hub works at the intersection of media and cultural studies to shape the theories, methods and practices needed for more just media futures. https://twitter.com/MediaFuturesHub