In the intro, Lily and Charlie discuss the isolating nature of Kratom addiction and the importance of reaching out to others for support and community. Lily interviews Eric O, who shares his personal journey with kratom addiction and recovery. Eric describes how he first encountered kratom at a kava bar, initially using it socially and later as a way to manage pain and stress. Over time, his use escalated, leading to financial troubles, strained relationships, and significant health issues. With the support of his wife and family, Eric went through the challenges of withdrawal and relapse, ultimately achieving nine months of sobriety at the time of the interview. He emphasizes the importance of support systems, honesty, and avoiding triggers, and hopes his story will help others struggling with similar addictions.

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