When Dave had this topic and episode in mind he knew that it would be an easy sell to Mat since the initial concept was around Tom Brady. So for a rare episode we do focus a bit on sports but even for those that arent into football or know much it will still be a worthwhile listen we promise!

During the Leadership Series we did earlier this year, Lauren Vaccarello brought up the topic of moving companies and bringing past coworkers with you.

Lauren walks through how to build credibility, attract talent and how she has handled doing both over the years.

Tom Brady and the recent flood of players coming out of retirement or taking small contracts to sign with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers is a real life example of this playing out.

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Then there is one of the best Tight Ends ever, Rob Gronkowski who retired and then signed to play – mostly because Tom Brady went to the Bucs.

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We of course often see this with CMOs and CEOs bringing people along with them from one company to another as they move for good reason. These are people they trust, know what they are doing and that can get the job done.

Lebron and Jordan

If by chance you are a fan of the NBA instead, think of when Lebron James moves teams and all those that try and play with him. Or years ago if Jordan was to go somewhere – people would follow knowing the was going to lead the team and have a high chance of winning.

Company Alumni Groups & Support

Avalaunch and Seer Interactive both have some alumni group that looks at the long term of helping employees. The example Dave recently found was by John Faris of Red Door Interactive.

<figure class="wp-block-image size-large"><figcaption>Part of a comment from John recently about supporting team members even as they move on.</figcaption></figure>

Full Transcript

Matt Siltala: [00:00:00 ] Welcome to another exciting episode of the business of digital podcast, featuring your host, Matt  and Dave roar. Hey guys. Thanks a all for joining us on another one of these episodes as always we have Dave, I was going,

Dave Rohrer: [00:00:17 ] it is going so

Matt Siltala: [00:00:21 ] national cat .

Dave Rohrer: [00:00:23 ] I think it’s national cat day

Matt Siltala: [00:00:25 ] national cats annoyingness day is what it is

Dave Rohrer: [00:00:27 ] in our houses.

Matt Siltala: [00:00:29 ] Well, um, something else that usually annoys you, but you’re letting me talk about today, mr. Tom Brady, are you going to regret this

Dave Rohrer: [00:00:39 ] maybe,

Matt Siltala: [00:00:41 ] but, uh, the idea that

Dave Rohrer: [00:00:43 ] you don’t win the super bowl, I won’t,

Matt Siltala: [00:00:46 ] Hey, threatened to play pretty good, but, uh, better than my Patriots off. Let’s not talk about that.

Dave Rohrer: [00:00:52 ] We can talk about that.

Matt Siltala: [00:00:55 ] But, uh, the, uh, the title and question today, we’re going to talk about [00:01:00 ] leadership and, um, like of course, you know, this is why, you know, Tom Brady, and this is why it pains you because you have to admit the Tom Brady is a good leader, but why don’t you share with us, uh, you know, your idea on the direction of this one and we’ll go from there.

Dave Rohrer: [00:01:16 ] So Lauren had mentioned it during our leadership series. I think she was the only one that mentioned it. Um, and talked about this topic and it’s the topic of when you move from one company to another, or from one role to another, you often work with people you like, and there’s probably some people that we all worked with that we don’t like bosses.

We like, or don’t like subordinates. Cheers. What’s

Matt Siltala: [00:01:40 ] that? No comment,

Dave Rohrer: [00:01:42 ] no comment. And. But as you move up the ladder and you ha you know, you have more staff anymore and have more people that report to you, there might be more people. That you like working with, or that you’ve found are [00:02:00 ] very good at doing X, Y, Z.

Is there someone that’s just awesome at Salesforce? There’s just someone awesome with HubSpot. And any time you have a question about whatever that tool is, that provider, that, that, that thing, they always can either figure it out or know it. Yeah. And as you move from one company to another, and this is kind of what, um, Lauren talked about, she at first felt bad, you know, Going to this company and then bringing in people and to hire into argument the team, but then as she talks true, it, um, she talked really about the fact that she was hired as VP of marketing, CMO, whatever this leadership, whatever this management role was to do a good job to fix a problem to drive leads, to do X, Y, Z.

And for her, she knows. That this person and that person, then this other person are the components that the current team needs to do that job.

[00:03:00 ] Matt Siltala: [00:03:00 ] Yeah.

Dave Rohrer: [00:03:01 ] And so, as I was thinking about a leadership topic, we could talk about as we kind of round out and end of the years, since we talked about it so much earlier in the year, I thought there would be one more thing we could talk about for leadership.

And this made sense as I watched, I don’t know how many people over the weekend. Talk about AB signing a one year deal with Tampa Bay. Yeah. So, so far, correct me. Gronk came out of retirement. Yup. But you’re not assigning. Okay. Maybe

Matt Siltala: [00:03:36 ] who he’s already got rapport with.

Dave Rohrer: [00:03:38 ] Well, he’s already got some rapport with and who some would say is one of the best receivers out there.

Um, he’s also one of the most difficult to tell with. Yeah, exactly. Um,

Matt Siltala: [00:03:48 ] If anyone can do it, Tom Brady can do it. And then who else,

Dave Rohrer: [00:03:51 ] who else followed down from the Patriots or somewhere from Tom’s working with? I think there was, there was like another [00:04:00 ] receiver or running back or someone that fine. I wish it was

Matt Siltala: [00:04:05 ] Edelman.

I can’t

Dave Rohrer: [00:04:08 ] read. I was like someone else. And there was like three big, like any team would love to have these three people. And they all signed smaller, probably contracts than they needed to, to go play

Matt Siltala: [00:04:22 ] with them because they know they got a chance

Dave Rohrer: [00:04:24 ] and here’s a chance.

Matt Siltala: [00:04:26 ] Well, here’s the thing too. And I was trying to, you know, our good friend, Melissa, you know, she was skeptical at first because she’s been the biggest Tom Brady hater that I’ve ever known, except for.

You know, once it, once he’s on your team, then all of a sudden things are different. And I, I told her this way he can come play for the

Dave Rohrer: [00:04:42 ] bears. Lord knows we need I’m like falls with my

Matt Siltala: [00:04:45 ] kid. But I told her this way before, um, you know, before the, uh, the season even began, I said, I said, give him a little bit of time, like.

They’re going to look rusty for [00:05:00 ] the first couple of weeks or whatever. They’re, they’ve never played with each other, like real games. We didn’t have any preseason, obviously. So they haven’t really played. And I said, just wait, he’s going to grow on you. And she was like, no, I don’t know. And she like was pretty skeptical.

And then a couple of weeks ago after I think it was one of the, the win over, um, the chargers. I think it was, but she was like, all right, I might have to get a Tom Brady Jersey. I’m like I told you. And I, it was funny cause I told her I, cause I got one from, I got one from the kids here and, uh, that would fit her and it was, uh, the new England one.

And I was like, I got a Tom Brady Jersey for you. And I can’t repeat what she told me, but, um, anyway, so, well, and that’s the thing too. It’s like, just going to your point, like let them have that time. He’s got the leadership. It’s like you said, he, he knows, you know, like with GRA coming back to like, he wasn’t in football shape, you know, he hadn’t played for a year and now [00:06:00 ] he’s starting to come back.

These last couple of games, he’s been playing lights out, Tom Brady’s killing it. I just saw that he got the offensive player of the month in the NFL for the la