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E72: The Cost of Being Undocumented: A Conversation with Alix Dick & Antero Garcia

E72: The Cost of Being Undocumented: A Conversation with Alix Dick & Antero Garcia

Update: 2025-09-09
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โœŠ๐Ÿฝ About Our Guests

Alix Dick is an artist and storyteller living in Los Angeles. Her contributions as a producer and filmmaker have screened at film festivals across the globe. She co-edits the substack, La Cuenta, an online publication centering the voices and perspectives of individuals labeled undocumented in the US.

Antero Garcia is a professor in the Graduate School of Education at Stanford University and president-elect of the National Council of Teachers of English. He has authored or edited more than two dozen books about schooling in America. He co-edits the substack, La Cuenta.

๐ŸŽง Episode Summary

In this powerful episode, Bruce Reyes-Chow speaks with Alix Dick and Antero Garcia, the folks behind The Cost of Being Undocumented: One Womanโ€™s Reckoning with America's Inhumane Math. The book explores the emotional, financial, and systemic burdens placed on undocumented immigrantsโ€”and the human stories that make those costs real.

Bruce, Alix, and Antero dig into:

๐Ÿ“š The origin story behind their collaborative nonfiction project

๐Ÿ’ต The hidden costs undocumented immigrants face in education, healthcare, housing, and safety

๐Ÿงฎ Why โ€œinhumane mathโ€ is more than just a metaphor

๐Ÿ’ก How storytelling and data can work together to inspire change

๐Ÿ‘ฉ๐Ÿฝโ€๐Ÿซ Anteroโ€™s personal lens as an educator and writer

๐Ÿง  Alixโ€™s process of transforming pain and policy into a compelling narrative

Itโ€™s a heartfelt and thoughtful conversation about justice, narrative power, and reclaiming humanity in dehumanizing systems.

๐Ÿ”— Episode Links & Resources

๐Ÿ“˜ The Cost of Being Undocumented: One Woman's Reckoning with America's Inhumane Mathย 

๐Ÿง‘๐Ÿฝโ€๐Ÿ’ป Alix Dick on Instagram

๐Ÿง‘๐Ÿฝโ€๐Ÿซ Antero Garcia at Stanford

๐Ÿ’Œ Subscribe to the La Cuenta Newsletter on Substack

๐ŸŽคAnd the singer that Alix mentioned, Debbie Dawson is at: www.debbiidawson.com

๐ŸŽง The Amalgamation Podcast

Be sure to subscribe to, rate, and review The Amalgamation Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts.

The Amalgamation Podcast Team: Emmie Hix (Producer), Dessiree McFarland (Editor), Merisssa Magdael-Lauron (Music)

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Your Host, Bruce Reyes-Chow

Bruce Rev. Bruce Reyes-Chow is a 3rd Generation Filipino/Chinese American and an active speaker, writer, and coachsultant on topics of faith, leadership, activism, culture, race, and technology. An ordained minister in the Presbyterian Church (USA), he is the author of six books, most recently Everything Good about God is True: Choosing Faith. He and his wife live in San Jose, CA, with too many animals and houseplants.

๐Ÿ’Œ BRC Website and Newsletter

๐Ÿ“š BRC Bookshop Bookstore

๐Ÿ”— BRC on BlueSky

๐Ÿ”— BRC on Instagram

๐Ÿ”— BRC on Tiktok

๐Ÿ”— BRC on YouTube

๐Ÿท๏ธ Tags / Hashtags

#TheAmalgamationPodcast #UndocumentedVoices #AlixDick #AnteroGarcia #TheCostOfBeingUndocumented #ImmigrationJustice #ProgressiveChristianity #StorytellingForChange #PodcastLife #DebbieDawson

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E72: The Cost of Being Undocumented: A Conversation with Alix Dick & Antero Garcia

E72: The Cost of Being Undocumented: A Conversation with Alix Dick & Antero Garcia