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EMERGENCY POD: Tariffs on Trial

EMERGENCY POD: Tariffs on Trial

Update: 2025-11-06
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Peter Harrell and Oren Cass join the show to talk IEEPA at the Supreme Court and broader US grand strategy towards China.


03:01 IEPA Tariffs and Their Implications


17:27 Reciprocity and Trade Agreements


20:13 USMCA and Fortress North America


39:01 Decoupling from China: A Strategic Perspective


43:41 Trump's Economic Approach to China


47:48 The Chips Debate: National Security and Economic Interests


01:05:24 Reflections on Political Discourse and Legal Arguments


01:16:17 a ridiculous suno song


We discuss Oren's 'Grand Strategy of Reciprocity' https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/grand-strategy-reciprocity and 'Stop Selling the Rope' essays https://americancompass.org/stop-selling-the-rope/


Outtro music: Suno does Hamilton for this case https://suno.com/s/xPRkTjq5KQ4MPXLb


Peter's amicus brief: https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24-1287/380641/20251024173045050_24-1287%2025-150%20Amicus%20Brief.pdf

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EMERGENCY POD: Tariffs on Trial

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