Rick Smith (CEO, Axon) joined Logan to share the 30-year journey of building a nearly $50B public company behind the TASER, police body cameras, and now AI-powered tools like Draft One. He talks about taking Axon public in the early 2000s, navigating intense public scrutiny, and evolving from a controversial hardware startup into a software and AI pioneer. Rick also reflects on leadership lessons, regulatory battles, and his long-term mission to make the bullet obsolete. It’s a candid and compelling conversation with one of the most unconventional founders in tech.

(00:00 ) Intro
(01:31 ) Axon: Reducing Violence Through Technology
(02:12 ) The Evolution of Axon: From Taser to Body Cameras
(04:56 ) Challenges and Triumphs: Going Public and Beyond
(07:17 ) The Impact of Ferguson and the Rise of Body Cameras
(11:16 ) Navigating Cultural and Business Shifts
(17:04 ) The Role of AI and Future Innovations
(25:26 ) The Taser: Technology and Purpose
(34:17 ) Making the Bullet Obsolete: Future of Law Enforcement
(37:10 ) Consumer Market Evolution
(37:59 ) Proving Taser's Viability
(40:17 ) Targeting Gun Owners
(41:45 ) Taser-Related Deaths and Media Perception
(48:07 ) Employee Taser Experience
(50:59 ) Impact of Body Cameras
(52:43 ) AI Innovations in Law Enforcement
(56:15 ) Challenges in Product Development
(01:04:27 ) Regulatory Hurdles
(01:11:31 ) Leadership and Company Culture
(01:14:58 ) Future Vision for Axon

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Logan Bartlett is a Software Investor at Redpoint Ventures - a Silicon Valley-based VC with $6B AUM and investments in Snowflake, DraftKings, Twilio, and Netflix. In each episode, Logan goes behind the scenes with world-class entrepreneurs and investors. If you're interested in the real inside baseball of tech, entrepreneurship, and start-up investing, tune in every Friday for new episodes.