Rowan and Devin play This or That? 

Among other things, they talk about:

• How neither of them does binaries or rules well
• Devin's dream to drive a Monster truck
• Rowan's love of Montreal bagels
• That cars have no gender!
• Drag baseball
• Laverne Cox
• The L Word
• "Hot Dog" in French
• Going to the gym as a trans person
• Rowan chooses "girlboy"
• Drag brunch

More at Devin's TikTok

Rowan's TikTok 

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