In this episode, Ricky and Kate sit down with Dan Orth, a man who is as real, nuanced, and deep as the vivid poetry that pours from his soul. Dan doesn’t choose to share his emotions through writing for recognition; he does it solely to help others so they know they’re not alone. Words fall short of describing how impactful this episode is to our hosts, and we know many of you will feel the same. Trust us when we say that you do not want to miss this one. Some of the topics covered during our conversation include:

• Dan’s background and military career


• The struggles of living with traumatic brain injury and what to do about it


• The costs associated with a high-stakes, high stress profession and how to deal with the dark and painful nights that inevitably come calling for us all


• The criticality of friendship and tribe


• How writing poetry can simultaneously enable us to feel our painful emotions and transform them

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