When we were putting this project together, Jaimie and Aspasia Leonarder aka Jay Katz and Miss Death were two people who immediately sprang to mind. For anyone with an interest in DIY culture, these two are like the spiritual gurus of DIY.They have dedicated their lives to sharing their passion for the fringes of forgotten culture and the people who live within those fringes.

Together they have worked as diversional therapists for the elderly and disabled, hosted the legendary club night “Sounds of Seduction” opened their home to the public and created the Mu Meson Archive and hosted one of FBi’s most infamous programs “The Naked City”.

We discussed a bunch of topics including why creating an inclusive space is important, why the “bottom line” is corroding culture, why fringe culture creates the front line, how underground culture feeds overground culture and why providing spaces for teenagers to be creative in is a necessity.