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EPISODE #5: From CMO to Founder: Creating Categories and Hiring High-Functioning Teams with Barbra Gago, CEO of Pando, and former CMO of Miro and Greenhouse

EPISODE #5: From CMO to Founder: Creating Categories and Hiring High-Functioning Teams with Barbra Gago, CEO of Pando, and former CMO of Miro and Greenhouse

Update: 2023-05-12
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In this episode, we'll be talking to Barbra Gago, Founder and CEO at Pando, who has spent her career as a CMO building and scaling companies from pre-series A to scale-up mode. She brought companies like Culture Amp and Greenhouse to market, and prior to founding Pando, she was the CMO at Miro, leading the re-brand from RealtimeBoard to Miro and scaling the business from $3m to $50m in ARR in just under 2 years. We'll be discussing her experiences building teams across a wide variety of contexts and uncovering what it takes to create successful GTM motions and new categories for some of the world's best products.


We discuss:



  • Differences in approach when hiring a founding team versus scaling an existing team

  • The importance of finding the right balance between specialists and generalists

  • The crossover between marketing and recruiting, and the importance of brand, structure, funnel, data, and pipelines

  • The use of the "employee LTV" metric to think about compensation and retention

  • The essential marketing roles for building a high-functioning organization and managing marketing people to outcomes

  • Hiring for product-led growth (PLG) and the importance of data-focused and experimentation mindsets

  • The differences between marketing and recruiting tools, and the misconceptions people often have about recruiting

  • Experimenting with different categories to increase the value of the "people team" and making recruiting a more valuable function within organizations.

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EPISODE #5: From CMO to Founder: Creating Categories and Hiring High-Functioning Teams with Barbra Gago, CEO of Pando, and former CMO of Miro and Greenhouse

EPISODE #5: From CMO to Founder: Creating Categories and Hiring High-Functioning Teams with Barbra Gago, CEO of Pando, and former CMO of Miro and Greenhouse

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