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ERC suspended: What happens next

ERC suspended: What happens next

Update: 2023-09-15
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On Sept. 14, 2023, in release IR-2023-169, the IRS suspended the processing of new ERC claims to combat the prevalent fraud occurring. These measures will help to protect small businesses and aim to stop fraud by promoters of ERC mills.

 In this episode, Kris Esposito, Director — Tax Policy & Advocacy, AICPA & CIMA, joins April Walker, CPA, CGMA, Lead Manager — Tax Practice & Ethics, AICPA & CIMA, to discuss this important news development and break down the details of the announcement.

What you’ll learn in this episode

  • Highlights of the announcement (1:24 )
  • How to find if submitted claims have been processed (3:53 )
  • When will recently submitted claims be processed? (4:41 )
  • Number of claims currently in the audit process (5:45 )
  • Client talking points (6:22 )
  • Available resources (7:38 )
  • Kris’ final thoughts (9:07 )

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Transcript

April Walker: Hello everyone and welcome to this special edition collaboration between the JofA podcast and the AICPA's Tax Section Odyssey podcast. I'm April Walker, host of the Tax Section Odyssey podcast, where we offer thought leadership on all things tax facing profession.

Today I'm here with Kris Esposito. She's a Director on the AICPA's Tax Policy & Advocacy team. And we're recording this on Thursday, September the 14th.

You have likely seen some breaking news from the IRS about the employee retention credit. We wanted to hop on here and record, tell you the information we know, and let you know what our next steps are.

We've been really closely monitoring this evolving issue of third-party ERC promoters over the past couple of years. We definitely been advocating to Treasury and the IRS. We've also been providing resources throughout the whole time of ERC since its inception with the CARES Act in March of 2020 to assist tax practitioners as well as taxpayers.

Today, the IRS announced its latest initiative to support small businesses. Kris, I thought maybe you could walk us through the highlights of that announcement.

Kris Esposito: Sure. I'm happy to.

Well, due to the big surge of ERC claims and concerns from tax professionals, including the AICPA, and the aggressive marketing tactics by third parties, the IRS announced today a multi-pronged approach to taper this ERC fraud.

They're immediately pausing the processing of additional claims. They said that will go at least through the end of the year. After September 14th, today, there will be no more processing of new claims.

They will be further scrutinizing your ERC claims that they already have received and not processed yet. Then they're also going to offer taxpayers an opportunity to withdraw claims that have not been paid out and that the taxpayer feels they may have done erroneously. So they're offering that to taxpayers.

There have been about 600,000 new claims that the IRS has received, and are awaiting processing. That 600,000, those folks, they're going to have the opportunity to withdraw their claims if they feel that they have put them in erroneously.

But for those folks who have actually willfully filed fraudulent claims or if they conspired to file a fraudulent claim, withdrawing your claim is not going to exempt you from potential criminal investigation and prosecution.

But the IRS has actually finalizing details on this withdrawal option. We don't have all the details yet, but there will be this option, it's just the IRS needs to finalize the fine print.

Then they're also going to offer taxpayers a settlement process to come forward for claims that have already been processed, but may have been erroneous, but the taxpayer has received the funds. Again, IRS is working out some details and they're going to come out with that program soon as well.

Walker: I think they said later in the fall, so we'll be monitoring that obviously.

The opportunity to withdraw should come out soon, very soon. They will provide the details there. I will share that as well as the settlement process.

You might have the question that I had when I saw this and was thinking about this — "Okay. I know I just helped my client file a claim for ERC. It's probably within that 600,000. How do I know if the claim has been processed or not?"

Probably as they have been slowing down, they've been saying that for the last couple of months that they've been slowing down processes. But our best advice is if you're in that gray area where maybe it's been processed, maybe it hasn't, the best advice we have is to call the IRS and ask [them the status] as you're walking through it with your clients on what your next steps are.

Alright Kris, what information did they provide about the timing? We’ve talked about how they're going to be slower, but what did they provided about when you can expect those claims to be processed, those 600,000?

Esposito: They did say the 600,000 that were recently received, they're going to be reviewed more intensely. They're going to be put under the microscope. They [IRS] target 90 days [to process ] new claims. I know they don't hit that target all the time. But they're now targeting 180 days.

Because they're thinking that [most of] the 600,000 don't qualify for the credit. They are really going to be looking at them, very closely and taking a longer time to do that. They may even ask taxpayers for more information so it's going to be a different ballgame now.

Walker: But that's good from a communication standpoint to your clients, if they are a part of that group that has filed a claim. In this announcement, did the IRS say anything about how many claims are in the process of audit or anything around that topic?

Esposito: Yeah, they have been auditing ERC and keep ramping up the audits of ERC because of the fraud. They did say they have thousands of claims in the audit process. They also have hundreds of criminal cases going on. They are definitely auditing the ERC and if a lot of these 600,000 are not withdrawn, a lot of them are going to go through audit as well.

Walker: As our listeners are trying to absorb this notice and thinking about [it] with their clients, about this announcement, let's talk through a few good talking points for them.

Esposito: You've wanted to throughout this process, have been in contact with your clients about the ERC. Whether it's because they qualified for the credit or they've been contacted by a third party provider, trying to influence them to apply for the credit.

As you're hearing about this announcement, you want to remind your clients of your past discussions and assu

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ERC suspended: What happens next

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