In this riveting episode, Garrett and Armen dive into a heart-to-heart conversation about their evolution as artists, the challenges they face, and their perceptions of where they stand today. They divulge their personal experiences with social anxieties, power imbalances, and shame, reflecting on past actions and growth. The conversation also prompts important self-reflections and reconsiderations about their current artistic paths and future directions. Lastly, they touch on the importance of staying true to oneself and not getting caught up in the fear of judgment or failure.