Librarian Natalie McCall chats with Justina Ireland, author of fantasy novels for young adults including the New York Times bestseller, Dread Nation (a genre-bending historical novel featuring finishing school zombie slayers). Justina also writes for the Star Wars franchise, including the books Lando's Luck, Spark of the Resistance, and A Test of Courage. Her middle grade novel Ophie's Ghosts comes out in May.

Natalie and Justina talked about whether The Great Gatsby is actually any good or if readers have been brainwashed into thinking it's a classic, the behind the scenes working of the hype machine in YA publishing, and the portrayal of "Black pain" in literature. Justina also gives hope to aspiring writers when she describes selling her most successful book to a publisher when it seemed like her career was over.

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