Shay Banon, the creator of Elasticsearch, joins us to discuss pulling off a reverse rug pull. Yes, Elasticsearch is open source, again! We discuss the complexities surrounding open source licensing and what made Elastic change their license, the implications of trademark law, the personal and business impact of moving away from open source, and ultimately what made them hit rewind and return to open source.

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Featuring:

• Shay Banon – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, X
• Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
• Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

Show Notes:

• Elasticsearch Is Open Source. Again!


• Changelog Interviews #429: Community perspectives on Elastic vs AWS


• Why we had to change Elastic licensing


• Changelog Interviews #578: What exactly is Open Source AI?


• Drafts of the Open Source AI Definition


• Llama.com


• “Llama the leading open source model family”

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