Comedian, musician, and former chemist Eli Ruffer joins the pod to talk about anxiety, books, creating a persona, comedy songs, his hatred of being online, and the viral success he found with his song "White Guy In a Kimono"

I had to pee before we started recording, so the first 4 minutes are an Eli solo pod.

Follow Eli on social media @elircomedy

Theme music by Isaac Lewis (@_isaac_lewis_)

Artwork by Xavier Maurice (@xaviermaurice_)

Hosted, edited and produced by Adam Mitrani (@amitrani)

Recorded at the Podcast Studio at P&T Knitwear