Gaby welcomes singer/songwriter Ella Henderson to the studio to chat about all thinkg joy.

They talk about shyness, anxiety and how they both cope with them. Ella takes ua way back to when she was just 16 and on the X-Factor, and how her sudden fame affected her mentally and physically. She discusses navigating the time, which she believes was easier than it would be now, because social media wasn't such a thing back then.

They also talk about the day Ella was born, and why she is named after Gaby! TRUE FACT!

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