In this two-part episode, I talk with Peter Stilwell, whose work has radically expanded my understanding of pain and other deep concepts like mind-body dualism and the biopsychosocial model.

In part I, Peter and I talk pain, mind-body dualism, and enactivism, which is something that Peter has dedicated a lot of work to, especially as it relates to pain. More than these topics, Peter brings a curious, pragmatic, and humble approach to tackling these sometimes daunting concepts.

If you haven't seen The Dress Illusion, you can check it out here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dress 

You can find Peter's paper: An enactive approach to pain: beyond the biopsychosocial model, here: https://tinyurl.com/44k9zs3m 

You can find Peter on Twitter @Peter_Stilwell, or learn more about him on his website, www.DrPeterStilwell.com 

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