In this S5E6 Schoolutions Teaching Strategies conversation, discover why 75% of elementary students love school but only 25% of 10th graders do—and what we can do about it. Dr. Rebecca Winthrop from the Brookings Institution joins me to unpack the hidden disengagement crisis affecting teens everywhere, including straight-A students who appear perfect on paper.

In this episode, Rebecca reveals the four critical modes of student engagement: Passenger Mode (physically present but mentally checked out), Achiever Mode (chasing perfection instead of learning), Resistor Mode (disruptive but showing hidden agency), and Explorer Mode (where curiosity meets drive). Learn why caregivers have equal power to teachers in motivating students and discover practical strategies you can use immediately.

Key Takeaways:
• Why disengagement nosedives in middle school and what's really behind it
• How to identify which engagement mode your child or student is in
• The surprising dark side of being a straight-A student
• Why taking away extracurriculars when grades slip backfires
• Specific questions to ask that spark deeper conversations
• How to break the procrastination-nagging cycle
• Why "failure therapy" matters more than perfect grades

About Dr. Rebecca Winthrop:
Director of the Center for Universal Education at Brookings and adjunct professor at Georgetown University. Co-author of The Disengaged Teen: Helping Kids Learn Better, Feel Better, and Live Better with Jenny Anderson.

Resources Mentioned:
• The Disengaged Teen by Rebecca Winthrop and Jenny Anderson
• Winthrop's World of Education (LinkedIn newsletter)
• Center for Universal Education at Brookings
• Mode Assessment Cheat Sheets (available in the book)

Perfect For:
Teachers, education coaches, school administrators, caregivers, homeschoolers, teacher mentors, instructional leaders, school counselors, and anyone invested in helping students thrive

Chapters:
0:00 Introduction: The Disengagement Crisis
1:00 Meet Dr. Rebecca Winthrop
3:00 The Heartbreaking Statistics
6:00 Why Kids Stop Loving School
9:00 The Four Modes of Engagement Explained
12:00 Passenger Mode: Coasting Through School
13:00 Achiever Mode: The Dark Side of Perfection
16:00 Resistor Mode: Hidden Agency
18:00 Explorer Mode: Where Curiosity Meets Drive
21:00 The Failure Therapy Story
25:00 Breaking the Procrastination-Nagging Loop
28:00 Deep vs. Broad Conversations
30:00 Technology as a Disengagement Enabler
33:00 Global Perspective on Disengagement
36:00 Rapid Fire Questions
38:00 Call to Action & Closing Thoughts

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