Pop segue? Guest co-host? WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? Forrest was tied up, and I, despite being free, needed someone to fill his wonderfully extensive cup collection. So, I enlisted podcast Hall of Famer Jesse Thorn to step in this week. That's right, the host of NPR's Bullseye with Jesse Thorn, Judge John Hodgman, and Jesse, Jordan, Go!

But don't fret, pals, Forrest will return in fantastic fashion next week.

Until then, I hope you enjoy this wonderful conversation from a wonderful person to whom I now owe some serious coin.

Also maybe spoilers, so be prepared for that.

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