Musician, producer, songwriter and former "wrongun'" Bernard Butler talks to Stuart Stubbs about his unorthodox music career that truly began when he walked out of a hugely successful band aged just 24 (Suede).

Topics covered include: what happened immediately after his first shock move of many, why he doesn't he care for nostalgia, and where he is now – releasing a new collaborative album with actor and singer Jessie Buckley.

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