On this episode, McKinzey and Emily are talking to Jake (McKinzey's husband) to chat about his experience of birth, postpartum, and parenting. He shares what it has been like to become a father, how his arm was almost broken during labor, the challenges of having a newborn, and how he has reacted to McKinzey's journey through surrogacy. 

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The Shit No One Tells You Podcast shares stories from birth workers, parents, and others about fertility, loss, pregnancy, birth, postpartum, parenting, and beyond. For more from us follow us on Instagram and Facebook @theshitnoonetellsyoupod, and email us at theshitnoonetellsyoupod@gmail.com. 

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