Matt Christman is a co-founder and co-host of the podcast Chapo Trap House, a mix of political comedy and straight up journalism that skewers mainstream politics from a raucous Left perspective. Matt is also a history podcaster, having co-hosted both the Hell of Presidents and Hell on Earth podcasts, and is a co-author of New York Times bestseller The Chapo Guide to Revolution. He’s also a regular vlogger on Twitch, among many other projects.

Ben and Matt discuss Matt’s spiritual awakening during the 2020 Covid lockdown, and what might be required of our sense of self and our spirituality for revolutionary social change to occur that would benefit the many and preserve human life in a sustainable way.

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Host: Ben Hawes

Music: terjerselfanewone by Ben Hawes/Jungjungle

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