Timeless Risks & Integrated Assurance: Rethinking the Audit Lens
Guest: Gavin Martin, Experienced Internal and External auditor having worked with some of the largest banks in the world. (Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gavin-martin-ukch/)

🔍 Why do “forever risks” demand a different audit playbook?
Host Thomas sits down with Gavin with nearly 30 years of experience across internal and external audit functions at organizations like UBS, Credit Suisse, and Lloyds Banking Group. Gavin shares how how Internal Audit, and the wider 3-lines ecosystem, can stay ahead of risks that never really disappear (think cyber, AML, climate) while orchestrating truly integrated assurance.

🎧 Key Topics Discussed
• Defining timeless risks vs. short-lived “hot topics”
• Moving from photo-snap audits to a full-length film of control maturity
• Why annual planning may block a multi-year risk view… and how to fix it
• Continuous insights: spotting stress points before they become findings
• Integrated assurance in practice: same destination, different vantage points
• Sampling, taxonomies & maturity models, aligning on the fundamentals
• Internal Audit as orchestrator: nudging first & second lines without losing independence
• Small-step pilots: starting with one risk (e.g., cyber) and scaling what works

💡 Takeaway
Sustainable assurance isn’t about more audits, it’s about shared outcomes, aligned methods and continuous storytelling. Start with one enduring risk, agree on what “good” looks like together, and build momentum from there.

🎯 Gavin’s Advice to Auditors
“Pick one area, unite the right people, agree on the outcome, and prove it works. Then replicate. Progress beats perfection.”

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