👀 “You had your threesome, now it’s my turn!” Sound familiar? Let’s talk about the myth of keeping it even in the lifestyle.

👉 In this episode of Vanilla Swingers — Apple’s #1 ranked swinger podcast — we’re diving into the messy, emotional minefield of scorekeeping in non-monogamy. Kat & Leo unpack why fair doesn’t always mean 50/50, how compersion and jealousy can exist in the same night, and why trying to “trade” experiences can backfire fast. Spoiler: your lizard brain doesn’t care about your relationship agreements when it’s spiraling.

👉 So is compersion real? Yes. But it has limits. And fairness? That’s a whole other beast.

🍦 Dive in and enjoy every spoonful of our super candid newbie journey as we go from vanilla…to 69 flavors! Always hilarious, unhinged, bite-size and commercial-free!

🏆 ASN Awards Best Podcast Winner 2025

🥇 AVN Best Adult Podcast Nominee 2026

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🔥 *BRAND NEW* blog page ---> fun links & more! Fair Is Fair... Why Compersion Only Goes So Far https://www.vanillaswingers.com/fair-is-fair-why-compersion-only-goes-so-far/

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🔥 *UPDATED* SWINGER CLUB REVIEWS - *Honest* reviews of dozens of clubs in the US and abroad. https://www.vanillaswingers.com/blog/swinger-club-reviews/

🔥 *NEW* Spotify Playlist - Sexy Songs: Vanilla Swingers After Dark - Ready to misbehave? 😉 This is the short version of the playlist we vibe to in the bedroom. Press play and let’s get into some trouble! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4ynpB6sZnhUrLZWWGazLYj

🔥 *NEW* Spotify Epic Playlist - Vanilla Swingers EPIC Playlist - Our go-to rendezvous banger—130+ tracks of pure filthy, flirty, and fire. If this playlist could talk, it would moan. https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3CORn07jtuiPS9fcz0Klxv

🔥 *UPDATED* Check out our HOTEL ROOM Makeover – Peek inside our fave hotel setups and steal every sexy, swingy little detail. https://www.vanillaswingers.com/mood-lighting-and-magic-how-to-set-up-a-swinger-hotel-room/

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