Ben Seymour, Partner at Southworth Associates, joins us to share lessons from 25 years in behavioral health. Starting as a technician in 1999, Ben became a counselor, interventionist, program founder, and now oversees compliance monitoring for professionals such as physicians, nurses, and lawyers.

In this conversation, Ben traces his personal recovery journey, the influence of mentors like Arlene Rosen and John Southworth, and how intervention has shifted from quick-turn models to long-term, clinically sophisticated processes. He highlights the ethical discernment needed to match families with the right programs, the evolving balance between admissions and clinical teams, and why sales and motivational interviewing are two sides of the same coin.

What You'll Learn

• Why long-term treatment engagement creates stronger recovery outcomes

• How intervention models evolved to address co-occurring mental health

• The ethical guardrails interventionists must honor when choosing cases

• How admissions and clinical staff can better collaborate

• Why sales is simply "selling change" in behavioral health

• How treatment programs must integrate marketing and ethics to stay viable

Key Moments

01:14 – Ben's start in recovery and first role as a technician
05:13 – Learning intervention alongside pioneers in the field
07:05 – Building trust and learning from John Southworth
10:10 – How intervention models evolved to address mental health
17:04 – The ethics of program referrals and narrowing choices for families
26:11 – Why admissions is an intervention
30:34 – The critical role of marketing in treatment survival

Learn More & Connect

Show Notes + Resources: https://snapshotinteractive.com/mastermined
Connect with Mark Scrivner: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markscrivner | https://snapshotinteractive.com
Connect with Jeff Skillen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffskillen | https://www.skillsetenterprises.com
Connect with Lee Pepper: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leepepper | https://www.neveroutmatched.com
Connect with Ben Seymour: https://www.linkedin.com/in/addictionservicesbenseymour | https://www.southworthassociates.net
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