Ep. 23 | Pay Us What You Owe Us feat. Giovonnie Samuels & Sy Ari
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On this week's episode of Selective Ignorance, Mandii B is joined by actress Giovonnie Samuels and rapper Sy Ari to unpack the layered relationship between self-worth and market value across entertainment, sports, and media.
The conversation kicks off with a distinction between personal value and perceived value in professional spaces (02:37 ), touching on the importance of negotiating with clarity and intention—whether you’re in a boardroom or on a basketball court.
From there, the trio dives deep into the realities of contracts (16:55 ), the cultural and economic factors behind the WNBA's ongoing pay disparities (36:01 ), and the larger systems that define how labor is valued in male-dominated industries like sports and music (52:20 ).
They also explore how cultural impact often doesn't align with compensation (54:37 ), especially as new dynamics like NIL deals reshape college sports (56:55 ). The discussion expands to Joe Budden’s controversial business approach (59:42 ), the evolving economics of podcasting and creator-led media (01:03:23 ), and what fair pay looks like for creatives (01:09:21 ).
In the latter half, Mandii and guests shed light on residuals for TV actors (01:17:40 ), the historic exploitation of child actors (01:23:51 ), and why knowing your worth—and demanding it—is an act of survival in an industry that rarely plays fair (01:29:50 ).
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