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Ep. 303: The Problem with Grand Goals

Ep. 303: The Problem with Grand Goals

Update: 2024-06-033
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Cal Newport continues his discussion on cultivating a deep life, focusing on the importance of finding resonance in books and other media. He emphasizes that it's more valuable to discover what resonates with you than to read specific instructions on how to change your life. He encourages listeners to keep a notebook of things that resonate with them, whether it's a book, documentary, article, or even an Instagram picture, and then extract general properties from these specific examples to craft their ideal lifestyle vision. He then reviews the five books he read in May 2024, including "Science and Human Values" by Jay Brunowski, "The Hot Zone" by Richard Preston, "Extinction" by Douglas Preston, "When the Shooting Stops...The Cutting Begins" by Ralph Rosenblum, and "The Great Partnership" by Jonathan Sachs. He discusses the key themes and insights from each book, highlighting their relevance to cultivating a deep life. He also shares his personal experiences with these books and how they have influenced his own thinking.

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00:00:00
Introduction

This Chapter introduces the topic of cultivating a deep life and the common trap of pursuing grand goals. Cal Newport, a computer science professor and writer, shares his gratitude for summertime and how it allows him to focus on deeper intellectual projects, like writing a new book.

00:09:53
The Grand Goal Strategy

This Chapter delves into the "grand goal strategy," a common approach to achieving a deep life that involves pursuing a single, grand goal. Newport explains the different variations of this strategy, including radical lifestyle changes, dream jobs, achievement focus, and ideological commitment. He then outlines the problems with this strategy, such as limiting options, impacting only one area of life, bypassing essential steps, and leading to a high rate of failure.

00:20:04
A More Sustainable Approach

This Chapter presents a more sustainable and reliable approach to cultivating a deep life, focusing on working backwards from a detailed vision of one's ideal lifestyle. Newport emphasizes the importance of getting organized and disciplined, building a clear vision, implementing strategies, seeking opportunities for amplification, and continuous growth. He argues that this approach is more likely to lead to sustainable and meaningful changes, and that it can even lead to unexpected and bespoke opportunities for a truly remarkable life.

00:31:28
Listener Questions

This Chapter addresses listener questions about cultivating a deep life. Ahmed asks if it's too late to start living a deep life at 27, and Newport reassures him that it's never too late and that the vision of a deep life evolves throughout different seasons of life. Joe asks about the relationship between the deep life and structured consumption of information, and Newport clarifies that the deep life encompasses many aspects, including work, and that intentionality and a clear lifestyle vision are key. Arzean asks about the differences between the "deep life stack" concepts, and Newport explains that he's been experimenting with different ways of thinking about pursuing a deep life and that his current approach focuses on the "how" rather than the "what." Marie asks how to design a deep life with four children under kindergarten age, and Newport emphasizes that the vision of a deep life will be different during this stage of life. He encourages listeners to focus on their intentions and work backwards from a vision of what they want their family life to look like during this particular stage, rather than trying to achieve a pre-defined ideal.

00:54:28
Slow Productivity Corner

This Chapter focuses on a question related to Cal Newport's new book, Slow Productivity. Sean asks about the concept of "limiting your missions" in the context of having a single day job. Newport clarifies that limiting missions involves reducing the number of major initiatives one is pursuing, even within a single job, to minimize administrative overhead and focus on delivering high-quality work.

00:58:23
Call from Christina

This Chapter features a call from Christina, who is struggling to focus after returning to work full-time after taking five years off to raise children. Newport acknowledges the common challenges of maintaining focus with young children and validates her experience. He then discusses the principles of slow productivity, which he argues are particularly relevant for parents who are trying to balance work and family life. He emphasizes the importance of working on fewer things at a time, working at a natural pace, and obsessing over quality to achieve meaningful outcomes rather than simply being busy.

01:11:07
Finding Resonance

This Chapter focuses on the importance of finding resonance in books and other media to cultivate a deep life. Cal Newport emphasizes that it's more valuable to discover what resonates with you than to read specific instructions on how to change your life. He encourages listeners to keep a notebook of things that resonate with them, whether it's a book, documentary, article, or even an Instagram picture, and then extract general properties from these specific examples to craft their ideal lifestyle vision.

01:22:57
Books I Read in May 2024

This Chapter features Cal Newport's review of the five books he read in May 2024. He discusses "Science and Human Values" by Jay Brunowski, "The Hot Zone" by Richard Preston, "Extinction" by Douglas Preston, "When the Shooting Stops...The Cutting Begins" by Ralph Rosenblum, and "The Great Partnership" by Jonathan Sachs. He discusses the key themes and insights from each book, highlighting their relevance to cultivating a deep life. He also shares his personal experiences with these books and how they have influenced his own thinking.

Keywords

Deep Life


A term coined by Cal Newport to describe a life lived intentionally and on purpose, focused on the things one cares about and minimizing distractions. It involves a conscious effort to create a life that is meaningful, fulfilling, and remarkable to oneself and others.

Resonance


The feeling of connection or identification with something, such as a book, movie, or piece of art. Cal Newport argues that finding resonance is more important than reading specific instructions on how to change your life when it comes to cultivating a deep life.

Ideal Lifestyle Vision


A detailed and comprehensive picture of what one wants their life to look like, encompassing all aspects of their life, including work, relationships, health, community, and leisure. This vision serves as a guide for making intentional choices and pursuing a deep life.

Slow Productivity


A concept developed by Cal Newport that emphasizes achieving meaningful outcomes rather than simply being busy. It involves working on fewer things at a time, working at a natural pace, and obsessing over quality to create high-value work that is sustainable and less stressful.

Jay Brunowski


A 20th-century philosopher of technology known for his book "The Ascent of Man." He is considered one of the well-known thinkers and critics on technology and its impact on society.

Richard Preston


A writer known for his narrative nonfiction books, including "The Hot Zone" and "The Cobra Event." He is known for his ability to weave together scientific information with compelling storytelling.

Douglas Preston


A writer known for his thriller novels, often written with his co-author Lincoln Child. He is also known for his nonfiction books, such as "Dinosaurs in the Attic" and "The Lost City of the Monkey God." He has a background in natural history and has had many adventures exploring remote and dangerous places.

Ralph Rosenblum


A film editor with a distinguished career, known for his work on films such as "Annie Hall" and "The Deer Hunter." He is a master of his craft and has a deep understanding of the art of editing.

Jonathan Sachs


A British rabbi and philosopher known for his work on the relationship between science and religion. He is the author of "The Great Partnership," which explores the values of Athens and Jerusalem and argues that they are complementary.

Notion


A workspace platform that allows users to combine notes, documents, and other information in one space. It is known for its flexibility, customization, and integration with AI.

Q&A

  • What is the "grand goal strategy" and why is it often ineffective for achieving a deep life?

    The "grand goal strategy" involves pursuing a single, grand goal, such as moving to the woods, achieving financial independence, landing a dream job, or reaching a specific level of achievement, with the belief that accomplishing it will fundamentally improve one's life. However, this strategy is often flawed because it limits options, impacts only one area of life, bypasses essential steps, and leads to a high rate of failure.

  • What is a more sustainable approach to cultivating a deep life?

    A more sustainable approach involves working backwards from a detailed vision of one's ideal lifestyle. This approach emphasizes getting organized and disciplined, building a clear vision, implementing strategies, seeking opportunities for amplification, and continuous growth. It is more likely to lead to sustainable and meaningful changes, and it can even lead to unexpected and bespoke opportunities for a truly remarkable life.

  • How can one cultivate a deep life while raising young children?

    The vision of a deep life will be different during this stage of life. Focus on your intentions and work backwards from a vision of what you want your family life to look like during this particular stage, rather than trying to achieve a pre-defined ideal. Be intentional about your choices and prioritize the things that matter most to you and your family.

  • What are the principles of slow productivity and how can they help parents balance work and family life?

    Slow productivity emphasizes achieving meaningful outcomes rather than simply being busy. It involves working on fewer things at a time, working at a natural pace, and obsessing over quality to create high-value work that is sustainable and less stressful. These principles can help parents balance work and family life by allowing them to focus on what matters most and avoid burnout.

  • Is it ever too late to start living a deep life?

    No, it's never too late to start living a deep life. The vision of a deep life evolves throughout different seasons of life, and it's always possible to make intentional choices and work towards a more fulfilling and meaningful existence.

  • What is the relationship between the deep life and structured consumption of information?

    The deep life encompasses many aspects, including work, and intentionality and a clear lifestyle vision are key. Structured consumption of information, such as reading interesting books and listening to podcasts, can be a part of a deep life, but it's not the only aspect. It's important to find ways to incorporate these activities into one's life in a way that aligns with their overall vision.

  • What is the difference between the "deep life stack" concepts?

    Cal Newport has been experimenting with different ways of thinking about pursuing a deep life, and his current approach focuses on the "how" rather than the "what." He believes that understanding the mechanics and strategies for making changes is essential for achieving a sustainable and intentional life.

  • What does it mean to "limit your missions" in the context of work?

    Limiting missions involves reducing the number of major initiatives one is pursuing, even within a single job, to minimize administrative overhead and focus on delivering high-quality work. This can help individuals avoid burnout and achieve greater productivity.

  • How can one cope with the challenges of maintaining focus after having young children?

    It's important to go easier on yourself and acknowledge that having young children can make it harder to focus. Embrace slow productivity principles, such as working on fewer things at a time, working at a natural pace, and obsessing over quality. Seek out opportunities to create a more sustainable and fulfilling work-life balance.

  • What are some examples of how to shift from an activity-based to an outcome-based approach to productivity?

    Instead of focusing on maximizing hours worked, prioritize delivering high-quality work that produces meaningful outcomes. This might involve limiting missions, working at a natural pace, and obsessing over quality. It might also involve seeking out opportunities to work remotely or adjust one's work schedule to create more flexibility and control over one's time.

  • How can I find books that will help me cultivate a deep life?

    Cal Newport suggests that instead of looking for books specifically about how to build a deep life, you should focus on books that give you intimations of what your own deep life should include. Look for books that resonate with you, even if they aren't directly about self-improvement. Keep a notebook of these resonant experiences and extract general properties from them to help you craft your ideal lifestyle vision.

Show Notes

The desire to cultivate a more intentional and remarkable existence – what we call “the deep life” – is universal. In today’s episode, Cal talks about one of the most common traps in this pursuit: hoping that the achievement of a singular grand goal will make all parts of your life better. Cal discusses the problems with the grand goal approach and argues why the more systematic lifestyle-centric mindset will not only produce better results, but end up leading to remarkable opportunities anyway. He then takes questions and calls from readers and reviews the five books he read in May.

Below are the questions covered in today's episode (with their timestamps). Get your questions answered by Cal! Here’s the link: bit.ly/3U3sTvo

Video from today’s episode:  youtube.com/calnewportmedia

Deep Dive: How to create a deep life [9:55 ]

- Is it too late to start living deep at the age of 27? [31:29 ]
- Is it possible to cultivate a deep life at a job that requires full attention? [36:05 ]
- How come there are different Deep Life Stacks? [38:57 ]
- How do I cultivate a deep life with small children? [46:40 ]
- Do I need to “limit my missions” if I have a standard day job? [54:40 ]
- CALL: Keeping focus after having children [58:28 ]

CASE STUDY: Finding books to help cultivate a deep life [1:12:18 ]

FINAL SEGMENT: The 5 Books Cal Read in May 2024 [1:22:47 ]

Science and Human Values (J. Bronowski)
The Hot Zone (Richard Preston)
Extinction (Douglas Preston)
When the Shooting Stops…the Cutting Begins (Ralph Rosenbaum and Robert Karen)
The Great Partnership (Jonathan Sacks)

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Thanks to Jesse Miller for production, Jay Kerstens for the intro music, Kieron Rees for slow productivity music, and Mark Miles for mastering.

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Ep. 303: The Problem with Grand Goals

Ep. 303: The Problem with Grand Goals

Cal Newport