In this episode of Human Cogs, Sabina speaks with not one, but two guests to better understand the devastating effects that drug use has on the children of drug users, and the cycle of abuse that can repeat if no action is taken.

Prue Mahar shares her story of what unfolded after her sister left behind two young
children following a drug overdose. In addition to Prue’s lived experience and insights, I am also joined by the quietly unstoppable Jane Rowe, founder and CEO of the Mirabel Foundation, a charity that supports vulnerable children whose parents are addicted to drugs or alcohol, or have passed away from their addiction. Jane is the worthy recipient of numerous awards including the Prime Minister's Centenary Medal and an Order of Australia, yet it's the way she inspires hope and kindness every day that is so very inspiring and impactful.

Together, this dynamic duo share the pain, anger, overwhelm, love, hope and commitment associated with the challenges and solutions needed to combat the intergenerational patterns of addiction; and the importance of connections and belonging we all need to do life well.

Mirabel currently supports over 1,900 children and young people, and their kinship carers who are impacted by substance abuse. As a parent, grandparent or sibling, most of us would like to think we would support our children, grandchildren, brothers or sisters if they really needed our help. But it’s hard for many of us to imagine the complexities and joys of raising a niece and nephew in one intergenerational home where a single grandmother, a mum and dad, share the practical, emotional, psychological, financial and educational responsibilities to raise four children – reminding us that it does indeed take a village!

This is much more than a story of kinship care catalysed by addiction. We discuss universal themes including relationships, family dynamics, loss, anger, love, the power of letting go and the need to work together to shape the lives of young and old alike; regardless of whether substance abuse has touched us or not.

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Guest: Jane Rowe and Prue Mahar
Website: Mirabel Foundation
Hosts: Sabina Read and Mads Grummet
Producer: Daryl Missen

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