Troy Vettese and Drew Pendergrass are the authors of Half Earth Socialism:A Plan to Save the Future from Extinction, Climate Change and Pandemics (Verso). We talk about their book, the simulation game that goes with their book and why vegans should be socialists and socialists should be vegans.

We also talk about Drew's work at mapping methane and other emissions in real time and go really off piste by chatting about my rewilding project in Scotland.

Troy is an environmental historian who specialises in environmental economics, animal studies, and energy history. Drew is an environmental engineer working on his PhD at Harvard University.

Websites/Socials

https://www.half.earth

http://drewpendergrass.com

@pendergrassdrew on X

http://thinklikeavegan.com

@emi.leese or @thinklikeavegan, Instagram, Facebook, X

https://birchfieldhighlands.org

Credits

Host: Emilia A. Leese

Guest: Troy Vettese and Drew Pendergrass

Production & Engineering: Jim Moore of Bloody Vegans Productions;

https://www.bloodyvegansproductions.com

Graphics: Catherine Dorrell

https://www.messyvegancook.com

MusicOpening theme: “Flashbacks” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business

Interlude: "Leaving the SRWG" by Matthew Gerstenberger;

Seismicity on Soundcloud https://on.soundcloud.com/3Pf8g

Closing theme: “Tear Things Up” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business

This podcast is part of iROAR, the Animals Podcasting Network https://iroarpod.com