Hello everyone! This week's episode features Nick Oueijan of Strafe Studios and thatgamecompany! Casey is also back! We love him. Well, we love both of them. Obviously.

Nick is a friend of ours since elementary school. We've been through it all. He is also the most creative person I know. He's done it all, digital art, wood working, carving, painting/stenciling and now game design! Nick has this incredible ability to be incredibly compassionate and caring, while also being stupendously hard-working and driven.

This is what we go into in the majority of today's episode. What does it take to trudge through those dark moments, where we feel like we just can't continue to try our best and pursue what we care about? And then, how serious do we have to be to continue to do that, week after week?

I hope this episode brings you the answers to these questions, and plenty of smiles. These are my brothers, and I love them so.

You can catch Nick on social by checking out his instagram here:

https://www.instagram.com/nick.oueijan/

And thank you again to Casey Mardix for joining us! You can check out all of his content here:

https://linktr.ee/xJollyLlama

Thanks for all of your support! Be sure to like the episode on Soundcloud, follow the podcast on Spotify, subscribe and give us a rating on Apple Podcasts and for my other projects, streaming, YouTube, TikTok, etc, check out everything you need here:

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