My first podcast episode was recorded with Matt Embree in February of 2020 as the U.S. felt the first effects of Covid-19. We discussed it's affect on touring musicians went through a history of Matt's life with music and discussed his fandom of the San Francisco 49er's. Since the recording of this podcast life has been generally derailed by many things. Making ends meet during a pandemic. Working on a patreon. Full time parenting. Anxiety. Depression. And probably the most crucial is that the world has embarked on the largest movement for equal rights of my lifetime. During much of this time releasing a new project has felt out of place. However, knowing myself, if I do not release this project now it will never move forward. I will touch more on some of these other things as the podcast continues to evolve. So here is to an interesting experience of reliving the beginning days of a pandemic with two weirdos as I bumble through my first recorded conversation and fail at proper microphone technique.  Hope you enjoy.