In this episode  we’re returning to the Middle East and taking on a contentious and sad topic: the history of Palestine. 

We’re joined by a very special guest, the Israeli-born historian Ilan Pappe [Eelahn Pah-pay] who is a Professor of History and the director of the European Centre for Palestine Studies at the University of Exeter in the United Kingdom. Prof Pappe shares his time between the UK and Israel. 

He’s also the author of a number of books including The Biggest Prison on Earth: A History of the Occupied Territories and The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, which challenge some conventional Israeli narratives about Israel and Palestine.