Episode 12: Jimmy Moore Talks with Me about Diet Info Overload Syndrome
Update: 2013-02-22
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Welcome back to Escape from Caloriegate! Today, we welcome the web's most popular low carb blogger (and one of my inspirations), Jimmy Moore of Livin' La Vida Low Carb fame. Jimmy's a steady voice of reason in world of unbelievable "diet insanity." We had a great chat about Diet Info Overload Syndrome. Check it out!
- Kevin Kennedy-Spaien is the secret behind both our shows - gotta love the DIsc of Light Media empire;
- Jimmy's great at seeing forest for the trees and filtering signal from noise;
- Info overload is huge issue - people getting info from bad journalism (e.g. "red meat causes cancer"). Nobody's doing firsthand investigation, and they're relying on other people to interpret.
- Jimmy started podcast to help translate information more effectively.
- Paleo / Low Carb have a lot in common - we need a unified front to meet those people who "don't give a rip";
- Consensus doesn't mean it's right; many of us who "become enlightened" realize that the conventional wisdom misleads us.
- The message IS trickling out there.
- What advice would Jimmy give "man on the street"? Lot of lessons he's learned and many nuances. One du jour that everyone's jumping on: cutting sugar. Not the only factor, but if people just cut sugar, deal with half the problems - sugar and any food that turns to sugar in the body.
- If you're not currently testing your blood sugar, do it! Buy a glucometer. It's easy to know what food is doing to you if you test test test.
- Another one is... whole gains are not healthy, especially modern day wheat.
- ADA recommend diabetics eat 13-14 grams of whole grains a day. Really? Test your blood sugar and see how that works for you!
- "whole grains" = health; "saturated fat" = artery clogging;
- most whole grain foods are actually highly refined
- Is the brown bread better than the white bread? Dr. Steven Gundry on his Ask The Low Carb Experts - no coincidence that when the world eats rice, they eat it white. The hull is doing more damage than the starchy part.
- another good rule: the quality of the fats. veg oils not a healthy fat. fearing butter and coconut oil and grass fed meat is crazy. yet we're eating all these horrible seed oils.
- he can't eat soy anymore
- vegetarians - micronutrient risks counteract bad effects of soy?
- we really don't know everything we need to know. this is a journey.
- we have our great suspicions that sugar and wheat not optimal for health,
- believe what you believe, but know that you could be wrong
- disconnect between what great science can tell us and what we want to know
- error in 'do these 10 things and you'll be healthy for life' mentality. It ignores the customization element. what works for Jimmy Moore won't necessarily be right for Adam Kosloff
- we've been sold this monopolistic way of doing things
- dieted people are different. Once you've been fat, your cells remember being fat. Will strive to get you back to that place.
- he never gained back all of his weight - at worst, he was still 100 pounds lighter than when he started
- people underestimate challenges that the morbidly obese face
- Jimmy used Nutritional Ketosis (which restricts protein as well as carbs) to lose lots of weight. Started in May 2012 after the Low Carb Cruise after weighing in at 306. Read Volek and Phinney books, including best sellers. In all 3 books, they used phrase called "nutritional ketosis."
- meter measures level of blood ketones. He's been using this daily to keep blood ketones in good range. He's lost 60 lbs in 8-9 months.
- sometimes reigning in protein is all it's going to take to get the scale moving
- there are times when he doesn't want to eat at all. no hunger is a sign of good things happening. you've fed your body well and given it the nutrients it wants. Hunger is a sign that your body needs stuff.
- intense satiation on low carb is not that familiar for most people - because they've been told "cut your fat" (fat satiates you) and "eat more carbs" (which stoke the hunger flame)
- in blogosphere, if you have any weight at all, you can't have an opinion unless you look that perfect part - which is a horrible message
- Twizzlers Diet or "naturally fat free" Marshmallow Diet - would it work?
- Mark Haub's Twinkie Diet - saw improvements. Haub's metabolism handled it better than Jimmy's would have.
- not just CICO vs. carbs-insulin hypothesis;
- we need to get people to stop fearing fat. That is what he thinks is the key -- getting over fear of saturated fats, good quality fats.
- David Gillespie writing a book on impact of seed oils on our health.
- What fats are truly bad vs. good? Once that gets out there, LC/Paleo will win.
- unified message of LC/Paleo camp -- focus on food quality and appropriate carb amounts can coexist. antagonism from Paleo may be along lines of LCers eat packaged food, not real food. LCers tend to be older and heavy who are looking to lose weight. Paleos are typically younger, looking to optimize performance. "real food" is where it comes together. eating "real food" can get you most of the way there; but some of us need to pay attention to the macronutrient composition.
- recognize that you may not get perfect body, but the best body you can based on what's happened in past
- Jimmy has sense of compassion for himself, his readers, his critics - how does he keep balanced?
- realizing that bigger picture at work here. isn't about Jimmy Moore or any other individual. It's about the message, which is bigger than all of us.
- once you realize that you have critics, then clap for yourself - a sign of success (e.g. Tim Ferriss)
- he's interviewed most of experts on almost every health subject
- low carb experts are surprisingly open - you can email them and they'll write you back
- common mistakes - they read something, hear about other people succeed. they try it, doesn't work, and they wonder why it doesn't work for them.
- e.g. they read about "safe starches" and try them, but then their blood sugar and weight get adversely affected
- "safe starches" can be tolerated by some people but not everyone
- "if I'm not hurting today, I'm not being harmed" = dead wrong
- obesity/diabetes epidemic happened over years and years
- we got into this mess b/c we were told to cut fat, and we did, and we ate more carbs and then we got fat
- Jimmy's new book - helping people understand how to read their cholesterol test results. people are totally confused about these tests. new book will hopefully bring clarity to this issue
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